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About this site –

Why Jhana8?

I’ve been considering whether to create a site like this for some time. A visit to YouTube to search for videos about Jhana turned up only some Buddhist monks from Thailand, USA, and India talking about what the Buddha said about Jhana.

That was odd. There are many people that have experienced some level of the Jhanas – and yet – why isn’t anyone telling about it? Why isn’t anyone helping those that aren’t having Jhana visit?

I’ve been lucky or blessed or whatever you want to term it – to have spent time in all 8 Jhanas. Hence the name of the site –, because was already taken.

Was it difficult to reach a place where Jhana would visit?

Sure, it was difficult… but mostly it was fun. That might sound like a contradiction to many of you that have worked hard to see Jhana.

The bad news is… you don’t go get it. It just comes. Ready yourself for it coming – and you can experience Jhana. All the Jhanas.

A little about my background…

I had very little ‘training’ in meditation – and that’s to my benefit. I think it’s profoundly difficult for Buddhist monks and others attempting to follow the Buddhist way of meditation and get much of anywhere at all.

Evidence for that is over the past 10+ years of looking I’ve yet to meet anyone that has experienced high-level Jhana. And, I’ve looked – hard. I know of a few people that appear to have had it… but I haven’t met them in person. Certainly, some of their descriptions seem to be right on.

Here in Thailand over the last 7+ years, I’ve met many Theravada monks and nuns… abbots of Buddhist temples. I have yet to find someone that is enlightened.

That’s very strange to me. Is it strange to you?

There are millions of people across the globe attempting to do what the Buddha originally did.

How many were successful over the course of history? How many had definitely gone up to and through Jhana8?

From my perspective – maybe very few. Where are these people?

How many have experienced Jhana8? One out of a billion? One out of 100 million?

Those numbers don’t add up for me. It doesn’t make sense that I can get to a stage where Jhanas came within a year.

I’m nobody special I assure you. Whether what happened before my birth in this body had anything to do with anything at all – I don’t profess to have the slightest idea. I don’t believe in reincarnation – rebirth – karma – or anything like that. Yet, at least. The option is there, and my mind is open to whatever is experienced. I am not close-minded to possibilities.

I say yet because there have been some experiences I cannot explain logically, with my rational mind – they happened – no doubt. How did they happen? I’ll go into it some on this site with some of my meditation journals from years back – and some recent.

Jhana8 is for those that would like to experience Jhanas. I’ll do my best – with what I know, to share with you how you can reach these states of mind.

The problem is, that you are in a catch-22. You have probably been taught that Jhana is either the path to enlightenment or part of the path… to the ultimate freedom from pain… from suffering… Buddhists call suffering – dukkha. I’m not well-versed in what Buddhists call different experiences and factors of meditation. I didn’t know any of them (virtually) when I started to sit and watch the breath.

You need not know them either. Believe it or not.

This site was created with the intention of being a “Meditation for Beginners” type site, but with some advanced tips and articles about what meditation does to someone that goes through the Jhanas and other experiences. The path… As one goes along the path there are many changes that happen, and I enjoy writing about them here.

I hope I can help even one person – beginner or expert – experience Jhanas. If I can do that – wow, what a cool thing to have shared with someone else!

Maybe it will be you? I think it’s not that difficult… the main problem will be getting over the catch-22 that exists which is this:

Jhana won’t visit you unless your mind is free from attachment… from craving, from excitement about possibly experiencing a Jhana state.

How can you forget about its importance? As soon as you grasp at it for just a fraction of a second… it goes away… it might have been very close to coming, and yet – when you get excited, anticipate it… bye bye! It fades away.

The less important Jhana is to you – the better chance you have of finding it.

Monks or other regular practitioners of 20+ years have a much smaller chance of having Jhana visit… you might have a much better chance.

Myself – I had very little knowledge of levels or states that occur in the mind as one meditates. Jhana didn’t mean anything to me when it came… sure it was amazing… but, I was following a very simple process… watch what happens… don’t attach to it with the mind. It will pass… and it did.. Jhana 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 all passed as I attached or grasped at them as little as possible. It is much easier not to grasp when they are not built up in your mind as part of the ‘end-game’.

If you think I might be enlightened after this experience… I can assure you I’m not. I think I can assure you. My mind has changed – no doubt. My current state of functioning is bizarre – no doubt… am I enlightened – no, I think not… I’m not really sure what enlightenment means. I don’t know what to believe it is… who can really talk about it unless they’ve experienced it?

So, that is a bit of what this site is about. Have a look around here and see if there’s anything you can take into your practice that might help.


Vern Lovic

Jhana8 @Twitter

2 thoughts on “About

  • at 9:44 am

    Hi Vern,

    I am an electronics engineer and an MBA in finance and marketing. I have had a good career of about 14 years but about 10 years ago i caught my nemesis, depression and anxiety. I lived with it for about 9 years (with medicine providing no satisfactory solution) and an year ago i had to quit my job because of panic attacks – 3 to 4 per day. To someone who may not know how that feels like I would say – good!! nobody should know what that feels like.

    I quit my job and taught myself how to meditate. Concentration, momentary concentration, mindfulness of breath, body, thoughts, feelings, emotions, everything – the whole 9 yards. I meditated for 3-4 hours every day. I was unemployed and fully committed to the idea of hacking my brain. I am employed again and thus have only about an hour and a half each day to meditate.

    Since the last couple of months I have been practicing jhanas 1 to 6. jhanas 7 and 8 elude me.

    Just started reading about you and your site – i haven’t explored all of it – and what I have read so far made me want to get in touch with you. I haven’t explored the ‘how to’ of gaining the siddhi powers. I am inclined to believe that they are a con. but I am open minded in the sense that I would not pass a final judgment on anything unless I have conclusive proof of either position (yes or no) preferably through my own direct experience.

    I would love to interact with you. By email at first and hopefully by skype or telephone call in the future. I am not some kook writing in as kooks do, I am not a troll trying to pull you down. I desperately seek someone who has experience of the jhanas ( and the siddhis / abhinnas) and someone who is not at all religious – just like me.

    I have started a blog to help people. I have put up 5 or 6 posts so far. It is styled like a self help book and it will always be free for ever. Its my contribution towards helping folks eliminate suffering. Please do go through it. It kind of establishes me as – not a kook. 🙂 Here is the link.

    I am a very proud, very private person. As a consequence I have a great deal of respect for other people’s personal space and privacy. Do interact with me, you might enjoy it. And if you don’t, we will have a chilled beer, sitting in our respective cities and bid each other farewell.

    From Mumbai, India

  • at 7:45 pm

    I think we did chat by email since this… if not, please email me at the contact page on Cheers!

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